Annex G – Response sheet Instructions If possible, please send responses electronically to [email protected] using the following table. Even if you reply in hard copy, please use this table. If any of your answers refer to specific regulations in the draft consolidated regulations, please provide the regulation number and corresponding ‘j-number’ (this is shown in square brackets after the regulation number) in the relevant columns. Please provide any other observations in the second table below. Use one row per comment, and add more rows if necessary. Please also complete and return the confidentiality template at Annex H. Respondent details Please provide your details as requested below. The second and third pieces of information would assist us in delivering the Government’s commitment to engage with small, medium and micro businesses. Please provide your name and (if relevant) the organisation or body you represent: Sarah Billington, Chief Officer for Hampshire and IOW Local Pharmaceutical Committee Please tick this box if you or the body you represent are in the NHS or public sector: If you represent a private sector company, please indicate the number of employees in the company by ticking the relevant box below: 9 or less 10-49 50-249 250 or more Question Question Number Response 1 Are there any benefits and costs of consolidation other than those outlined in the impact assessment? If so, what are they? Hampshire & IOW LPC welcomes the consolidation of the plethora of medicines regulations in one single piece of legislation. What other evidence is there of the benefits and costs of consolidation for you or your organisation? Please review the sections relevant to your industry and/or body and provide comments on the accuracy of our assumptions. In particular, we would like to know the following: Approximately how much time does your firm or body currently spend every year understanding the regulations as they are currently drafted? As above What change in this annual amount of time We expect the amount of time we spend supporting contractors regarding legislation to increase in the short term as the changes, particularly the proposed to S10, will 2 3 3a 3b It is important that professionals and members of the public have access to all relevant regulations without requiring knowledge of the existence of a specific regulation, or having to take considerable research to find a specific regulation. The LPC represents 350 Pharmacy Contractors in Hampshire and IOW We respond to queries from contractors and their pharmacy teams which includes advice on and interpretation of legislation as it applies to registered pharmacies providing NHS community pharmacy services We would estimate that we spend 3 hours a month providing information and advice on legislative matters. Regulation J-number number (if (if relevant) relevant) 3c 3d 3e 3f 4 would you expect as a result of the consolidated regulations? have a significant impact on community pharmacy Roughly how much time do you think your firm or body will take in familiarising itself with them? Where relevant, how much time do you estimate your firm or body will require to alter your own guidance material in response to the consolidated regulations? What is the approximate wage rate of the staff who will engage in understanding regulations and revising guidance? Is our assumption that small and micro businesses generally rely on their trade and professional bodies for regulatory information correct? Do you agree with the structure of the draft regulations? Why, or why not? We are fortunate to have some in-house expertise on this subject and we expect the LPC members to be familiar with the changes through brifing papers and short updates provided at LPC meetings ( 6 held each year) Total time approx. 6 hours We estimate the time we spend responding to queries will increase to 8 hours a month, plus we will actively provide information through our website and Newsletters which will add a further 1 hour a month We will update our website and provide critical information to our contractors in the quarterly Newsletters Time= 1 hour per month We agree and would add that Local Pharmaceutical Committees are also a valuable conduit for information and source of assistance and advice. We support the structure of the regulations which is logical, but as with most legal documents is not particularly user friendly to non-legally trained persons. 5 6 7 8 Do the draft regulations introduce any changes other than those outlined in this document? Are there any drafting errors in the draft regulations? Are there any provisions in the draft regulations that could be made clearer? What should we do to help users prepare for the entry into force of the consolidated regulations? We did not note any as there was limited time to respond to the consultation and certainly not enough to proof read Clear and user-friendly guidance needs to be supplied and sufficient time given for those affected to assimilate and understand the changes. The guidance should be tested on a range of non-legal stakeholders for readability and ease of understanding A range of communication strategies should be employed in order to reach all stakeholders. Assumptions should not be made that all those affected are regular internet users 9a 9b Should we add more requirements to Reg 3 [j002B] for medicinal products that fall outside the scope of the consolidated regulations? If so, what? We have replaced the term “prepared” that was used in a few of the exemptions in the Medicines Act 1968 with “manufactured”, as we believe that term covers Yes we do think this will cause difficulties ‘Manufactured’ implies the product is the result of a commercial process that is subject to licencing requirements and which meets specific and appropriate standards. Products that are the result of being extemporaneously ‘prepared’ have clearly been subject to a very different process, with different standards and legal requirements. the making of any product. Do you see any difficulties with this? 9c 10 Is the provision too narrow or too broad in any respect? Is the new definition of advertisement sufficient to cover all relevant forms of advertising? This change will confuse those producing the products and those who are purchasing/obtaining them. The LPC support the new definition of advertising, We would like clarity on advertisements that appear as part of a website as there have previously been difficulties with determining what constitutes a ‘price list’ when it appears on a web page that can be readily accessed by a patient. Community pharmacists who provide legitimate internet pharmacy services have been given conflicting and confusing advice on how they can provide information (including the price) about medicines, human and animal. It would be helpful for guidance to cover other types of advertising such as products featured in television programmes, cold calling by telephone and spam email. 11 12 13 Do you agree with the proposals for the two simplifications in relation to herbal medicines? Why, or why not? Do you agree with the proposal to remove the requirement to dispense certain medicinal products in fluted bottles? Why, or why not? Do you agree with the proposal to remove statutory warnings, including for We support the simplifications and welcome the wider reforms planned for this sector. The LPC supports this proposal. In reality obtaining fluted bottles has been a problem for some time and they have fallen out of use. Patients do not associate fluted bottles with the purpose for which they were intended so they no longer act as a safety measure. We agree with the proposal with some reservation. If the policy intent is to ensure clear and consistent warnings about safety issues across products with the same ingredient, then the system that replaces statutory paracetamol? Why, or why not? warnings must be robust and enforceable and not rely on ‘self-regulation’ by industry. If the current warnings are not well understood by patients then it is critical that work is undertaken to ensure that the language and wording used in future warnings improves this picture. The LPC assumes that if a manufacturer fails to include evidence based and consistent warnings as part of a MA application, then the MHRA would refuse to grant it. Adequately informing patients about paracetamol is an issue. Many commonly used products contain paracetamol and are obtained and consumed without interaction with a health professional. The LPC would want to see clear guidance for patients and carers about the maximum daily dose and the dangers of accidental overdose through the use of multiple products, whether that be through a statutory warning or other mechanism. 14 15 16a Do you agree with the proposals to change the persons appointed process? Why, or why not? Do you agree with our proposals to remove exemptions that are obsolete or no longer relevant? If not, why? Do you agree with our proposal to extend to other organisations concerned with research the provisions allowing sale or supply No comment No comment on 9.4 We agree with the proposal in paragraph 9.6 and 9.7 Yes with the caveat that there is clear guidance on what constitutes an organisation concerned with research which will help those community pharmacists approached to make the supply. Guidance must also be made available to assist community pharmacists on what checks should be made regarding the signed orders submitted by these institutions 16b 17 18a 18b of medicines to universities and institutions concerned with research or higher education. Why, or why not? as there is no register or single resource that can be used to verify the signature/identity of the “principal or head of department in charge of a specified course of research” who may sign the order. If such a change were introduced, should it be subject to the exclusion of any classes of medicines in addition to controlled drugs? Why, or why not? Should the limit on the size of ampoule in which water for injection can be supplied be extended to 5ml? Why, or why not? Should the existing exemption allowing the administration of Adrenaline by injection by any person for the purpose of saving life in an emergency be amended to allow injection up to and including 1 in 1000? Should an increased range of Adrenaline preparations be subject to any limitations on the route of administration. We cannot comment on the classes of drugs that should be available for research. The issue for community pharmacy is that they inadvertently make a supply that is not covered by the exemption and/or the request for the supply is not a legitimate one. Steps must be taken to mitigate these risks. However the LPC would want it made clear what drugs, if any, are excluded from this exemption to assist community pharmacists approached to make the supply. ( see answer to 16a) The LPC supports the recommendation to extend the size of ampoule in which water for injection can be supplied but we disagree with it being limited to 5ml and would argue that any risk can be mitigated by making it a matter of professional judgement The LPC supports this amendment 19 20 21 22 Why, or why not? Should Paracetamol and Ondansetron be added to the list of medicines that can be administered parentally by registered ambulance paramedics on their own initiative? Why, or why not? Should people be allowed to obtain water for injection for purposes other than parenteral administration without a prescription? Why, or why not? Should pharmacists be allowed to sell or supply water for injection without a prescription for purposes other than parenteral administration or for use as a dilutent where no dilutent has been specified by the prescriber? Why, or why not? Should holders of the Council’s Advanced Life Support (ALS) certificate be allowed to administer Adrenaline and Amiodorone in The LPC agrees that the availability of water for injection should be extended and the supply should be made a matter professional judgement. Where the product is being supplied as a diluent for a prescribed dry powder injection, there should be the facility for the community pharmacists to endorse the prescription and receive payment Yes. See above and our answer to 17 The LPC support the proposal that will improve outcomes for patients by increasing access to emergency medicines. 23 emergencies involving cardiac arrest? Why, or why not? Do you agree with the proposal to retain the general structure and requirements of PGDs in their current form, and to retain the principle that only registered health professionals should be able to use PGDs? The LPC supports the retention of the structure and requirements of PGDs in their current form. We agree with the principle that only registered health professionals should be able to use PGDs and would ask that this list be extended to include registered pharmacy technicians The LPC believes the purpose of PGDs is to be of benefit to services users and facilitates health care provision within a framework that provides appropriate levels of safety and accountability. It is understandable that organisations will seek to gain the maximum benefit from enabling legislation, such as PGDs, and it has to be accepted that one of the benefits for an organisation may be economic even if that was not the intent of the legislation. There are examples where PGDs are used at the very limit of their intended purpose, for example by an internet medical service providing life-style medicines via a PGD. We would welcome guidance that ensures that PDGs are used appropriately. 24 25 Should NHS bodies be able to supply medicines in accordance with the written directions of an independent nurse, pharmacist or optometrist prescriber? Why, or why not? Should independent hospitals, clinics etc. in England continue to be allowed to use PGDs The LPC supports this proposal. To ensure that commissioners ( of NHS services for the NHS) have the broadest choice and providers have equal opportunities we would agree that any exemptions in the legislation should be extended to independent non-medical prescribers. All medicines supplied in this way should be subject to the labelling requirements for dispensed medicinal products. We support this proposal If a service is eligible to register with CQC then that service is subject to regulation and assurance by CQC and as such it would be suitable for inclusion in any 26 27 but by reference to them being registered for the following regulated activities in England? • treatment of disease, disorder or injury • assessment of persons under the Mental Health Act 1983 • surgical procedures • diagnostic and screening procedures • midwifery services. Why, or why not? Should dental practices and dental clinics registered with the CQC or private dentists registered with its equivalent in Wales be able to sell, supply or administer medicines under PGDs? Why, or why not? Do you agree with the proposal to facilitate the optimisation of medicines use? Why, or why not? exemption that allows the development of PGD’s. The LPC supports this proposal for those medicines relevant to dental practices and clinics for the treatment of matters within their area of expertise The PGDs developed should require the input of a pharmacist The LPC strongly support this proposal. It is essential that pharmacists be allowed to use their professional judgement to facilitate the safe and timely supply of medicines to patients. The LPC welcomes the intention to produce guidance to support this change. Waste is a significant issue and the LPC believes that pharmacists could make a valuable contribution to reducing waste if they were allowed to modify quantities prescribed for the purposes of synchronising prescriptions. 28 Do you agree with our The LPC welcomes the consolidated regulations and the proposal to ensure they are proposal for keeping the consolidated regulations up to date? Why, or why not? kept up to date. We agree with the proposal to maintain and make available an up to date version of the regulations on the website. However not all stakeholders will have the capacity or opportunity to monitor frequent changes. Consideration should be given as to how changes will be communicated. Further comments (please use a separate row for each comment and insert more rows if necessary) Number Further comment The LPC is disappointed that the consultation does not tackle decriminalisation of dispensing errors. We disagree that the proposed course of action will resolve the problem or prevent inappropriate prosecution of pharmacists and their teams. The CPS has had national guidance in place for some time, which had it been interpreted and applied as intended should have prevented the prosecution of EL in 2009 and GM and JH in 2008 . The purpose of the law is to protect the public. There is no evidence to suggest that having the criminal offence within the medicine legislation reduces dispensing errors by pharmacists. A review of medicine legislation is overdue and despite the considerable cost and complexity of the task it is essential that it is undertaken as soon as possible to make is fit for purpose. Since the legislation was written, delivery of pharmacy and other healthcare services has changed out of all recognition and in order to ensure medicines reach patients safely and when needed, pharmacists and their teams make decisions on a daily basis that potentially leave them at risk of breaching legislation. 4.21 The LPC is disappointed that section 10(7) of the medicines act is to be repealed. By removing s10(7) a criminal offence is created, that of wholesaling without a licence. New exemptions are being created and regulation and prosecution will be a matter of interpretation of these exemptions. You are proposing that a WDL will not be required if Regulation number (if relevant) J-number (if relevant) the pharmacist provides medicine to a health professional or other who needs them to pass on to their patients, or the pharmacist supplies another pharmacist if it is occasional, not for profit and for individual patient needs For the proposal to work effectively it must be very clear how the terms ‘small quantities’, ’not for profit’ and ‘occasional’ will be interpreted. The proposal appears to create a 2 tier system whereby supplying a healthcare professional such as a GP for onward use for a patient is not subject to restrictions, whereas supplying another pharmacist also a healthcare professional, is subject to the occasional and not for profit rule. It would be fairer and more expedient if the proposed exemption simple required the supply to any healthcare professional, including pharmacists, to be on the condition that this is the last ‘wholesale’ transaction in the supply chain and the person receiving it does so in order to sell/supply the medicine to their patient. The LPC is also concerned about the different terms used in the documents provided with the consolation. In the guidance the proposed changes appear to make the transactions person to person whereas in s10(7) the transaction was linked to the registered pharmacy, by or under the supervision of a pharmacist. Unless the pharmacist is a sole trader it will be the pharmacy business that will make the supply on the decision of the pharmacist. The Impact Assessment refers to exempting ‘pharmacies that sell only to individuals and organisations that hold stock for onward supply to patients’. We would request there are clear and consistent terms and definitions that support the policy objective. NHS hospitals and Trusts commercially trade in medicines and many registered their pharmacies to enable wholesale supply to other legal entities such as private and third sector healthcare providers. The LPC would like assurances that whatever licencing arrangements and /or concessions are put in place for NHS organisations do not disadvantage community pharmacies and thus prevent fair competition. Professional guidance to support the implementation is essential and transitional arrangements must be put in place manner to enable all community pharmacies to understand the proposals, review their current practice and manage the changes to minimise the negative impact on their business. We are confused by the conflicting information in the Impact Assessment. In the Cost and Benefit section for the preferred Option 1, it states ‘All healthcare providers can gain their supplies from the usual route as long as the healthcare provision is direct to patients’. Then later in the same section reference is made to the 15,286 healthcare providers in the private sector who will have to get their supplies from a wholesaler in the future. Why? Your proposed option to give an exemption for the ‘supply to a health professional or other who needs them to pass on to their patients’ makes no distinction as to whether the healthcare profession/provider or other works in the private or NHS healthcare sector, therefore they could all obtain their supplies from community pharmacy. Please could you clarify this. The regulations continue to require that a patient information leaflet is supplied with all medicines. There are many occasions when this is neither possible nor desirable to provide a PIL. Many patients receive their medicines in monitored dosage systems and other compliance aids on a regular basis and providing a PIL every time is problematic. Many patients receive supplies at intervals of less than 28 days from packs that are split and there are not enough PILs available to include one with each supply. Supplies of medicines to care homes are done in bulk and the care home staff are left with bundles of PILs that are often thrown away and do not add to the patient safety agenda We would like to see a more flexible approach that allows the pharmacist to use their professional judgement whilst still ensuring that patients receive information in a timely and effective way.
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